War veteran fined £100 for smoking in hotel room

by Kevin Rawlinson. Published Tue 31 Mar 2009 11:21, Last updated: 2009-04-02
Cyril and his wife Lydia
Cyril and his wife Lydia

Cyril Carter, 96, has seen the price of cigarettes rocket by a whopping 24000 per cent since he took up smoking.

Back in 1926 twenty Woodbine cost just six old pence but at his ripe old age Cyril still enjoys an occasional fag and pays nearly £6 for a pack of twenty.

War veteran Cyril remains astonished at today's prices but little did he imagine that a single cigarette would ever cost him £100!

But that is the price that former RAF airman Cyril was forced to pay when he was "fined" after lighting-up in his room at four star hotel.

Retired bus inspector Cyril and his wife Lydia, 93, of Birkdale, Southport, decided to take a mini-holiday in their home town and booked into the £150-a-night Ramada Plaza.

But to their astonishment when they came to check-out the couple had a £100 "smoking fine" slapped on their bill.

Management say the recently-built hotel overlooking the resort's Marine Lake is entirely non-smoking and has signs in all the rooms warning guests of the no-fags rule.

Grey-haired Cyril said: "I know cigarettes are expensive these days but I never imagined that smoking one could cost me a hundred pounds.

"I had no idea that there was a no-smoking rule at this hotel. I saw no signs and nobody told me about it.

"I would not have stayed there if I had known and I think they've got a damn cheek charging a pensioner that kind of money.

"You could have knocked me down with a feather when they told me that they were charging me a hundred quid for cleaning the room.

"They kept us for nearly an hour waiting at the reception and they would not let us leave until we paid the fine."

Cyril did not have the extra money to pay the fine and had to borrow it from his sister-in-law who had also stayed at the hotel.

Added Cyril: "It was all very embarrassing. They could see that we are all getting on a bit but they had no sympathy and insisted we had to pay this fine.

"The staff were quite abrupt in the way they treated us and I would never stay at that hotel again."

A spokesman for the Ramada Hotel Southport said: "It is hotel policy to fine guests who smoke £100.

"The hotel is no smoking throughout and there are signs at the main reception and in all of the rooms.

"When people see that the hotel is no smoking, they don't usually decide to light up do they?"

Asked wether the fine might be waived in light of Cyril's age the spokesman added: "If we waive a fine for one then we would have to waive it for all.

"The cost of preparing a room where someone has been smoking is closer to £200."

The smoking rights campaign Forest condemned the Ramada Plaza Hotel over the affair.

A Forest spokesman said: "This shows how extreme the anti-smoking mentality has become in this country.

"If there is a total smoking ban at this hotel the staff should make that very clear to guests when they check-in.

"The staff and management at the Ramada Plaza Hotel should be absolutely ashamed of themselves at treating a war veteran in this appalling way."





Comments about War veteran fined £100 for smoking in hotel room

if the gentleman had PAID for the room then he had a right to smoke in it,because it became his home for the period he paid for!
Rod, Peterborough around 4 months, 1 week ago
This is why I do not live in the UK anymore; prefer to live in a FREE country!
Brian Kerr, Costa Rica around 9 months ago
I hope that the Ramada goes out of business.
sharon, hull around 11 months, 1 week ago
Well the smoking ban has been in black a white for a decent amount of time, quite right he should be fined.
Nathan, Warwick around 11 months, 1 week ago
I will be In Southport this week and after reading this article I will NOT be at the Ramada even though my company would pay the bill !!
Mick, Middlesbrough around 11 months, 1 week ago
Awful story, no tolerance or compassion. Makes you proud to be British?? Have sent small donation which I trust will be passed to Mr Carter.
Geoff, Bishops Stortford around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
was thinking of using this Hovel for our summer hols, but after reading this online they have no hope, £100 fine cost them my £1000
anthony Williams, Leicester around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Always pay hotel bills by cash. Say you don't have a credit card..
Jon, manchester around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Although I can understand the comments of many here my main concern is the way the staff have treated this gent. No decency, no leniency.
Peter Mac, Port Sunlight around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
The Ramada website has no clue to the smoking ban on the hotel grounds or the rooms.
bowie waplington, witham around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Well done the hotel as a non smoker I am sick of staying in hotels with the smell of stale smoke lingering, shame on him for ignoring signs.
Mary Brown, Manchester around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Utter disgusting treatment. Even a refund wouldn't make me stay at your hotel. You're off my list for good
Chris, Southport around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
http://www.freedom2choose.info/news1.php?id=964 Disgraceful. I will boycott Ramada Hotels,smokers money where I am welcome.
mandyv, cambs around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Disgraceful, disrespectful, unkind, heartless, lying, money-grabbing, unwelcoming jobsworths. Great PR, Ramada!
Millie, South East around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
A totally disgraceful way to treat their customers. Goodbye Ramada you're boycotted.
Jon, Brighton around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
sign of the times, set of idiots
Jenny, near Southport around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Shocking. What we need to know for ourselves (and for Mr and Mrs Carter) is: which hotels in Southport DO allow guests to smoke in bedrooms?
Lysistrata, Yorkshire around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Smokers should stick together and boycott the Ramada Chain and in addition boycott the Labour Party who introduced smoking bans.
Basil Brown, Uk around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
The Ramada group are now off my list and I travel a LOT!! Roll on the next election. How about we all put in a fiver to help this hero???
Judith Morris, York around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
This gentleman fought for freedom from the nazi's and won. The nazi's beat him this time now that he is too old to fight back.
Brenbda Orsler, Essex around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
reservations@ramadaplazasouthport.co.uk Let em know what you think of them!
Tony Smith, Litherland around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
NO respect these idiot hoteliers - Hope they go bankrupt, - quickly.
chris, Nazi England around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Anybody got an email address for Ramada? They need to know I won't be using their hotels.
George, Keighley around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Goodbye Ramada,your boycotted.
Travel Agent, Edinburgh around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Just typical of the way this country has become since nu-labour took control.I think the staff need training to value and respect customers
s donald, darlington around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
As a non-smoke I do appreciate smoking rules but a bit of lea-way, deceny and COMMON SENSE wouldn't have gone amiss here.
charlie75, Liverpool around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Typical over zealous, incompassionate hotel policy! Window open for 30 minutes & air freshener (99p) -cost £100! Absolutely disgraceful.
Phil Johnson, Leicester around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Well I certainly won't be staying at the Ramada Hotel in Southport if smokers are treated like that. Shame on them.
Helen, Wigan around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
www.uksmokingban.forumotion
Farnham, Manchester around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
A war veteran risked his life to save this country and yet is condemned by the gutless who invent an invisible enemy.
Chris, SouthWest around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Ridiculous. £100 for cleaning up after one fag. An open window would be far cheaper. Just a means of making more profit.
chas, Little Britain around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
"The cost of preparing a room where someone has been smoking is closer to two hundred pounds." B******s
david, lincoln around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
an april fool?
akkana, shropshire around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
And the underlying reason these smoking bans exist in the first place? The crusade to "save lives." That punishes 96 year olds.
Audrey Silk, New York, USA around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
They slapped a charge like this on a NINETY-SIX year old? Just what kind of society do we live in now???
Glenda Morris, Widnes around 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Amazing. Another sign of the UK going down the banks. The Ramada clearly has no shame.
Alan Peel, Maghull around 11 months, 2 weeks ago


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